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How much for 1999 5.4 Cobra R ?
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You should follow your own advice some times… I can’t imagine what the responses to that last one will be like.
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(AAP92LX50) writes: I just got my June issue of MM&FF. On page 28 they say that the 1999 Cobra R is a go. It will have the 5.4L DOHC motor with horsepower expected at 400. They say that $50,000 for this modular monster is "not out of the realm of possibility."
$50,000 for a Mustang? Yea, and Average Joe American can drive the 50K Mustang to the yacht club when he not in the mood for his chauffeur to drive him in the limo. If Ford wants to build us something special, how about building us a *GT* that can run very low 14’s with trap speeds in the very high 90s. Sorry guys, if I’m ever able to spend 50K on one car it won’t be a Mustang. I’ll still own a Mustang, but it will be the garden variety type with a few mods. Understand this Ford! The Mustang is for the working stiffs who want big power, and decent over all performance in a low dollar package. Now the *new* T-bird can go after the upscale buyers; just leave the Mustang for us blue collar guys. Patrick Black/Grey ‘87 5 liter 5 speed LX
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says… It depends on what you mean by "winning". Do the GM ponycar twins outperform the Ford ponycar for less money? Yes. In that ring, GM is "winning". Does the Ford ponycar outsell and make more money for Ford than the GM twins do for GM? Yes, In that ring, Ford is "winning". Now which ring do you think Ford & GM are more interested in?
Good point, but the day I have to justify a loss on the street with "Oh yeah, well at least Ford’s selling more Mustangs…" is the day I need to trade in the Cobra on a minivan! Of course, this matters not to Ford, so I’ll stay away from the SOHC’s… -Steve ‘93 Cobra #1983 (9# Powerdyne)
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benefits us sooo much! Just be glad this isn’t just 10 years ago, 1988. Todays car like the Lexus GS400, BMW 540I, etc can out acclerate just about anything from the late 80s. Back then the only
New 540 will do 0-60 in what, 5.5 seconds? Disgusting. have the DSMs, even the Preluce VTECs are damn close. For all the abuse the Preludes take (they really shouldn’t, they are nice cars, its just the drivers who we hate because they overrate them)they
They’re still FWD, 4 bangers, and ugly — there are plenty of reasons to hate them, even without someone driving them. too. Think about it, a new Contour SVT or Bonnieville SE (sc 3.8) can outrun ‘Vettes from just 15 years ago! Thats progress!
‘84 Vettes had a whopping 215 horsepower I think. 
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Not true. Cambirds are anything but cheap. Ever look at the price of a new SS or Trans Am WS6? I looked at a Trans Am the other day. Try 30K on for size. Actually, an absolutely loaded TA with T Tops and all (A sad missing from the stang) is $27K Sticker, and with all the ones sitting on the lot, you can pay close to invoice. Gee, nearly identical price to a Cobra, and half a second quicker. (And IRS to boot). Had I not got A Plan on the Cobra, thats what I would have bought. But for $22,900, the Cobra was the better deal for me.
Here in western WA state loaded T/As are 31K and come with a live rear axle. Just the facts. riored97cobra#301 K&N, pulleys, bored 80mm mass air see my web page http://riored.fordpower.org
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I just got my June issue of MM&FF. On page 28 they say that the 1999 Cobra R is a go. It will have the 5.4L DOHC motor with horsepower expected at 400. They say that $50,000 for this modular monster is "not out of the realm of possibility." JeffK Hi Jeff. I’d say it’s of out the realm of saneness on the part of Ford. Let me get this straight: Ford expects me to pay $50,000 for essentially a rebadged Mustang with a hot motor as its sole claim to fame? While I would certainly like to oblige Ford my keepers thankfully possess just a modicum of fiduciary responsibility… My keepers point out it will be a car with a terrible front to rear weight ratio, lousy McPherson front suspension with no adjustments (unless one wants to add after market caster/camber plates and bushing), solid rear axle (well made and able to take some punishment for sure but still a solid rear axle). Cut to the chase: They point out its still a ‘78 Fairlane at heart. It would appear that Ford is supplying cubic inches in place of real quality automotive engineering. Keep building them trucks and SUVs, Ford, its what your good at. For a high performance automobile sedan, I’ll look elsewhere for my next one… For around $40,000 I can get a nice Corvette, with a distinct look and some sophisication, or one of the BMW or Porche or even Mercedes sedans that go fast and handle. Sincerely, MarcW. (who’s Mustang GT is in the shop OVER THE WEEKEND and an Olds Aurora just doesn’t cut it…)
Marc. If Ford builds a 50K Cobra R which is supposedly approved for production, it will have IRS, SLA, and enough hp to make anything Chevy produces look feeble. I don’t know what you are thinking, but for 50K Ford will produce nothing short of a supercar. Now will these ever be available as a GT or a Cobra for the streets? One can only hope. There is even rumor of a 35th anniversary stang like the 99 Rs for the street. If they make it, I’ll be one of the first in line and it’ll eat ‘Vettes for snacks. Chances are that if it is made it’ll be out of my price range, but I’ll always be able to pick up a low mileage use one in a year anyway. I hope all this speculation comes to fruition. I doubt it, but I’m still excited at the prospect. Not to worry Marc, a 50K stang will destroy anything costing less than 100K and do it with ease. riored97cobra#301 K&N, pulleys, bored 80mm mass air see my web page http://riored.fordpower.org
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It depends on what you mean by "winning". Do the GM ponycar twins outperform the Ford ponycar for less money? Yes. In that ring, GM is "winning". Does the Ford ponycar outsell and make more money for Ford than the GM twins do for GM? Yes, In that ring, Ford is "winning". Now which ring do you think Ford & GM are more interested in?
This is a bad thing for us performance enthusiasts. It shows that what we want (more performance) isn’t really what the general car buying public wants. I’d like to see the F-body outsell the current Mustang. Then maybe Ford would jump into a horsepower war. Right now, there’s absolutely no incentive for Ford to do that. Chris ‘91 5.0 LX http://www.mcs.net/~fuzzy
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Not true. Cambirds are anything but cheap. Ever look at the price of a new SS or Trans Am WS6? I looked at a Trans Am the other day. Try 30K on for size. Actually, an absolutely loaded TA with T Tops and all (A sad missing from the stang) is $27K Sticker, and with all the ones sitting on the lot, you can pay close to invoice. Gee, nearly identical price to a Cobra, and half a second quicker. (And IRS to boot). Had I not got A Plan on the Cobra, thats what I would have bought. But for $22,900, the Cobra was the better deal for me.
Am I missing something? Neither of the above cars have IRS.
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Step inside an interior of a camaro and an interior of a mustang. Try having a camaro handle like a mustang. Why would the GM boys want to detune their suspension??? I’ve always been a "Ford man", but even I’m willing to admit that GM is winning the ponycar wars. It’s sad but true! Personally, I think the camaro-birds will be the Mustang of the 90’s. Fast and cheap…
It depends on what you mean by "winning". Do the GM ponycar twins outperform the Ford ponycar for less money? Yes. In that ring, GM is "winning". Does the Ford ponycar outsell and make more money for Ford than the GM twins do for GM? Yes, In that ring, Ford is "winning". Now which ring do you think Ford & GM are more interested in? Dave Lyons
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Actually, an absolutely loaded TA with T Tops and all (A sad missing from the stang) is $27K Sticker, and with all the ones sitting on the lot, you can pay close to invoice. Gee, nearly identical price to a Cobra, and half a second quicker. (And IRS to boot). Had I not got A Plan on the Cobra, thats what I would have bought. But for $22,900, the Cobra was the better deal for me.
IRS? I’m going to make the assumptions that you are talking about Independent Rear Suspension and that TA stands for Trans Am (I hope that isn’t too much of a stretch). The Trans Am most definitely doesn’t come with an IRS, its live axle just like its always been. That was one of the only major complaints in the road tests of the new TA’s. Don’t know where you got that information from….
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- Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I’d say it’s of out the realm of saneness on the part of Ford. Let me get this straight: Ford expects me to pay $50,000 for essentially a rebadged Mustang with a hot motor as its sole claim to fame? It is limited production, which WILL REALLY DRIVE THE PRODUCTION COST UP… And even at 100,000 bucks, when they are selling only 250 of them, it will be snatched up like crazy… — ===Team OS/2, Team OS/2 at Taiwan, ICE News Beta Tester. Bovine Team=== ======Warped Key Crucher, And OS/2 ISP CD Project Member. TBA #3====== US Mirror http://www.cybermail.net/~davidwei Taiwanese Mirror http://www.taconet.com.tw/~davidwei