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ABS & Traction control conversion on a 68 Fastback.
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Matt, You really wan to do something wild with your classic mustang, then you really should speak with the folks at Mustangs Plus: http://www.mustangsplus.com/ These guys have just about done it all over the last 20 years or Yours in Fords, Bill S. – Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Hehe, I knew you guys would say that. And in a way, I agree. I hate to chop the hell out of a classic mustang. But I do want a heavily modified one just because driving one original just isn’t fun to me. And I guess part of it is that I wasn’t around in 68. :) Thanks for all the info. I wasn’t neccesarily saying that I was going to go that route, im just saying its something that has been on my mind a little. I would like to have a 68 fastback that at least handles, stops, and is comfortable to drive. I’ve had a 68 Mustang before and it was none of the above… Thanks, Matt Jim I cant agree with you more it sounds like this dude wants a 2002 mustang that looks like a 68 he should buy the a mustang for all its creature comferts or just enjoy a 68 for the car it is… I am considering purchasing an old Mustang but would like to upgrade the suspension, etc. I was wondering if anyone know of any packages to upgrade a 68 Fastback to have ABS and Traction Control? Traction control isn’t a huge issue but I would love to have ABS. If anyone knows? I’m restomodding a ‘68 and I just put new four-wheel disc brakes in it. The short answer is that ABS and brake-based traction control are very sophisticated elements that can’t be bolted on to existing vehicles very easily. No one I know of makes any sort of kit, and while you might be able to transplant parts from another vehicle, I would not want to try and balance such a system. I suspect that all efforts in that area short of a NASCAR garage’s level of expertise would result in an unsafe vehicle. Frankly… this is the sort of mod that I strongly oppose. It’s a Mustang. Make it a helluva Mustang if you want, make it a modified-to-hell-n-back Mustang if you like, but DON’T try to turn it into a 2001 Porsche. It’s a waste of your money and effort, and contrary to everything that classic Mustangs are about. Really. If you want a modern road ripper, go buy one. If you want a classic Mustang, buy one (and there are a lot of safety and performance improvements you can add, but they aren’t 2002-sophisticated). But they’re two different things and if you think you can buy a Mustang and turn it into a modern car in all but the skin, you’re likely to end up very unhappy and with a much thinner wallet to boot. Also, I am looking for some really plush, nice aftermarket leather seats. Anyone know where I can purchase those? Yep. Corbeau (GTB or Sport) or Recaro make nice ones for which bolt-in adapters are available. You can get the Sports "naked" for about $225 apiece and then have a local shop cover them to suit you. (Afterthought: If you’re talking about differential-based traction control, there are a variety of original and aftermarket rear end options you can go with.) — | See http://www.nitrosyncretic.com for the Heinlein FAQ & more |
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I am considering purchasing an old Mustang but would like to upgrade the suspension, etc. I was wondering if anyone know of any packages to upgrade a 68 Fastback to have ABS and Traction Control? Traction control isn’t a huge issue but I would love to have ABS. If anyone knows? Also, I am looking for some really plush, nice aftermarket leather seats. Anyone know where I can purchase those? Thanks, Matt
I too am considering just such a swap (ABS and Trac Control) but on a 1986 Mustang. I have a 1992 Crown Vic that has both these systems and love them. I notice it is a self contained system that can be removed from the car intact and grafted onto another. Each wheel would have to have ABS reluctor (toothed sensor) wheels (axles and hubs) and sensors installed. The ABS brake pump/solinoid and computer are also needed. Not a small undertaking but if you were to salvage all the parts from a cheap donor car the actual cost could be modest. Some mid-80s Fords used unmarked Recaro seats. My SVOs come with them, as well as a 1985 LTD I have. I junked a 1983 Turbo-coupe that had beautiful seats that may have been OEM Recaros as well. They sold for $100. All these were a velour/tweed like fabric but very nice. Leather seats usually crack and seams let go by the time they are 10 years old. S Best 84&86 SVO, 76 Bronco, Monster Van, 92 PI ‘Vic http://www.glinx.com/~sbest/
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I am considering purchasing an old Mustang but would like to upgrade the suspension, etc. I was wondering if anyone know of any packages to upgrade a 68 Fastback to have ABS and Traction Control? Traction control isn’t a huge issue but I would love to have ABS. If anyone knows? Also, I am looking for some really plush, nice aftermarket leather seats. Anyone know where I can purchase those? Thanks, Matt
One fairly simple way of doing this is to get a functional ABS system out of a newer car. I do recall seeing a website at one time where someone had installed ABS into a late 60’s Stang, using components out of a pre-OBD-II GT with ABS. After OBD-II, Ford started using a central communication system between all the computers in the car, hence the reason why you can use the same plug under the dash to pull engine computer codes as well as ABS codes. I guess if you absolutely HAD to have it, you can do it, but it would almost be cost prohibitive, I really can’t see spending less than about $3000 to do it. Bart
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Thanks for the info. It was just pretty much a pipe dream. Not that I will ever do it. I was just wondering if there was any cheaper easy way to do it for only a couple grand. But I dont want to deal with installing newer mustang parts on my car and seeing if that works. Hehe, too much of a hassle and too expensive. Thanks! Matt
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am considering purchasing an old Mustang but would like to upgrade the suspension, etc. I was wondering if anyone know of any packages to upgrade a 68 Fastback to have ABS and Traction Control? Traction control isn’t a huge issue but I would love to have ABS. If anyone knows? Also, I am looking for some really plush, nice aftermarket leather seats. Anyone know where I can purchase those? Thanks, Matt One fairly simple way of doing this is to get a functional ABS system out of a newer car. I do recall seeing a website at one time where someone had installed ABS into a late 60’s Stang, using components out of a pre-OBD-II GT with ABS. After OBD-II, Ford started using a central communication system between all the computers in the car, hence the reason why you can use the same plug under the dash to pull engine computer codes as well as ABS codes. I guess if you absolutely HAD to have it, you can do it, but it would almost be cost prohibitive, I really can’t see spending less than about $3000 to do it. Bart
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news.verizon.net wrote this: I am considering purchasing an old Mustang but would like to upgrade the suspension, etc. I was wondering if anyone know of any packages to upgrade a 68 Fastback to have ABS and Traction Control? Traction control isn’t a huge issue but I would love to have ABS. If anyone knows? Also, I am looking for some really plush, nice aftermarket leather seats. Anyone know where I can purchase those?
Brakes: best to get the most monstrous setup you can fit. The improved feel and control will allow your own right foot to give you all the lockup prevention you need. Traction control: forget it. If you feel the rear wheels spinning, back off the throttle. Seats: Recaro has always been top of the line. But there must be some pretty nice stuff out there in the junkyards, too, that your local auto upholsterers can reupholster with whatever you want. Yrs, 180 — Thunder Snake #28 http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=6&uid=116159&
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Hehe, I knew you guys would say that. And in a way, I agree. I hate to chop the hell out of a classic mustang. But I do want a heavily modified one just because driving one original just isn’t fun to me. And I guess part of it is that I wasn’t around in 68. :) Thanks for all the info. I wasn’t neccesarily saying that I was going to go that route, im just saying its something that has been on my mind a little. I would like to have a 68 fastback that at least handles, stops, and is comfortable to drive. I’ve had a 68 Mustang before and it was none of the above… Thanks, Matt
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Jim I cant agree with you more it sounds like this dude wants a 2002 mustang that looks like a 68 he should buy the a mustang for all its creature comferts or just enjoy a 68 for the car it is… I am considering purchasing an old Mustang but would like to upgrade the suspension, etc. I was wondering if anyone know of any packages to upgrade a 68 Fastback to have ABS and Traction Control? Traction control isn’t a huge issue but I would love to have ABS. If anyone knows? I’m restomodding a ‘68 and I just put new four-wheel disc brakes in it. The short answer is that ABS and brake-based traction control are very sophisticated elements that can’t be bolted on to existing vehicles very easily. No one I know of makes any sort of kit, and while you might be able to transplant parts from another vehicle, I would not want to try and balance such a system. I suspect that all efforts in that area short of a NASCAR garage’s level of expertise would result in an unsafe vehicle. Frankly… this is the sort of mod that I strongly oppose. It’s a Mustang. Make it a helluva Mustang if you want, make it a modified-to-hell-n-back Mustang if you like, but DON’T try to turn it into a 2001 Porsche. It’s a waste of your money and effort, and contrary to everything that classic Mustangs are about. Really. If you want a modern road ripper, go buy one. If you want a classic Mustang, buy one (and there are a lot of safety and performance improvements you can add, but they aren’t 2002-sophisticated). But they’re two different things and if you think you can buy a Mustang and turn it into a modern car in all but the skin, you’re likely to end up very unhappy and with a much thinner wallet to boot. Also, I am looking for some really plush, nice aftermarket leather seats. Anyone know where I can purchase those? Yep. Corbeau (GTB or Sport) or Recaro make nice ones for which bolt-in adapters are available. You can get the Sports "naked" for about $225 apiece and then have a local shop cover them to suit you. (Afterthought: If you’re talking about differential-based traction control, there are a variety of original and aftermarket rear end options you can go with.) — | See http://www.nitrosyncretic.com for the Heinlein FAQ & more |
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Thanks Bill. I was looking for a lot of the things they have. :) Thanks again. Matt
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – Matt, You really wan to do something wild with your classic mustang, then you really should speak with the folks at Mustangs Plus: http://www.mustangsplus.com/ These guys have just about done it all over the last 20 years or Yours in Fords, Bill S. Hehe, I knew you guys would say that. And in a way, I agree. I hate to chop the hell out of a classic mustang. But I do want a heavily modified one just because driving one original just isn’t fun to me. And I guess part of it is that I wasn’t around in 68. :) Thanks for all the info. I wasn’t neccesarily saying that I was going to go that route, im just saying its something that has been on my mind a little. I would like to have a 68 fastback that at least handles, stops, and is comfortable to drive. I’ve had a 68 Mustang before and it was none of the above… Thanks, Matt Jim I cant agree with you more it sounds like this dude wants a 2002 mustang that looks like a 68 he should buy the a mustang for all its creature comferts or just enjoy a 68 for the car it is… I am considering purchasing an old Mustang but would like to upgrade the suspension, etc. I was wondering if anyone know of any packages to upgrade a 68 Fastback to have ABS and Traction Control? Traction control isn’t a huge issue but I would love to have ABS. If anyone knows? I’m restomodding a ‘68 and I just put new four-wheel disc brakes in it. The short answer is that ABS and brake-based traction control are very sophisticated elements that can’t be bolted on to existing vehicles very easily. No one I know of makes any sort of kit, and while you might be able to transplant parts from another vehicle, I would not want to try and balance such a system. I suspect that all efforts in that area short of a NASCAR garage’s level of expertise would result in an unsafe vehicle. Frankly… this is the sort of mod that I strongly oppose. It’s a Mustang. Make it a helluva Mustang if you want, make it a modified-to-hell-n-back Mustang if you like, but DON’T try to turn it into a 2001 Porsche. It’s a waste of your money and effort, and contrary to everything that classic Mustangs are about. Really. If you want a modern road ripper, go buy one. If you want a classic Mustang, buy one (and there are a lot of safety and performance improvements you can add, but they aren’t 2002-sophisticated). But they’re two different things and if you think you can buy a Mustang and turn it into a modern car in all but the skin, you’re likely to end up very unhappy and with a much thinner wallet to boot. Also, I am looking for some really plush, nice aftermarket leather seats. Anyone know where I can purchase those? Yep. Corbeau (GTB or Sport) or Recaro make nice ones for which bolt-in adapters are available. You can get the Sports "naked" for about $225 apiece and then have a local shop cover them to suit you. (Afterthought: If you’re talking about differential-based traction control, there are a variety of original and aftermarket rear end options you can go with.) — | | See http://www.nitrosyncretic.com for the Heinlein FAQ & more |
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I am considering purchasing an old Mustang but would like to upgrade the suspension, etc. I was wondering if anyone know of any packages to upgrade a 68 Fastback to have ABS and Traction Control? Traction control isn’t a huge issue but I would love to have ABS. If anyone knows? Also, I am looking for some really plush, nice aftermarket leather seats. Anyone know where I can purchase those? Thanks, Matt
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I am considering purchasing an old Mustang but would like to upgrade the suspension, etc. I was wondering if anyone know of any packages to upgrade a 68 Fastback to have ABS and Traction Control? Traction control isn’t a huge issue but I would love to have ABS. If anyone knows?
I’m restomodding a ‘68 and I just put new four-wheel disc brakes in it. The short answer is that ABS and brake-based traction control are very sophisticated elements that can’t be bolted on to existing vehicles very easily. No one I know of makes any sort of kit, and while you might be able to transplant parts from another vehicle, I would not want to try and balance such a system. I suspect that all efforts in that area short of a NASCAR garage’s level of expertise would result in an unsafe vehicle. Frankly… this is the sort of mod that I strongly oppose. It’s a Mustang. Make it a helluva Mustang if you want, make it a modified-to-hell-n-back Mustang if you like, but DON’T try to turn it into a 2001 Porsche. It’s a waste of your money and effort, and contrary to everything that classic Mustangs are about. Really. If you want a modern road ripper, go buy one. If you want a classic Mustang, buy one (and there are a lot of safety and performance improvements you can add, but they aren’t 2002-sophisticated). But they’re two different things and if you think you can buy a Mustang and turn it into a modern car in all but the skin, you’re likely to end up very unhappy and with a much thinner wallet to boot. Also, I am looking for some really plush, nice aftermarket leather seats. Anyone know where I can purchase those?
Yep. Corbeau (GTB or Sport) or Recaro make nice ones for which bolt-in adapters are available. You can get the Sports "naked" for about $225 apiece and then have a local shop cover them to suit you. (Afterthought: If you’re talking about differential-based traction control, there are a variety of original and aftermarket rear end options you can go with.) — | See http://www.nitrosyncretic.com for the Heinlein FAQ & more |
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Jim I cant agree with you more it sounds like this dude wants a 2002 mustang that looks like a 68 he should buy the a mustang for all its creature comferts or just enjoy a 68 for the car it is…
– Hide quoted text — Show quoted text – I am considering purchasing an old Mustang but would like to upgrade the suspension, etc. I was wondering if anyone know of any packages to upgrade a 68 Fastback to have ABS and Traction Control? Traction control isn’t a huge issue but I would love to have ABS. If anyone knows? I’m restomodding a ‘68 and I just put new four-wheel disc brakes in it. The short answer is that ABS and brake-based traction control are very sophisticated elements that can’t be bolted on to existing vehicles very easily. No one I know of makes any sort of kit, and while you might be able to transplant parts from another vehicle, I would not want to try and balance such a system. I suspect that all efforts in that area short of a NASCAR garage’s level of expertise would result in an unsafe vehicle. Frankly… this is the sort of mod that I strongly oppose. It’s a Mustang. Make it a helluva Mustang if you want, make it a modified-to-hell-n-back Mustang if you like, but DON’T try to turn it into a 2001 Porsche. It’s a waste of your money and effort, and contrary to everything that classic Mustangs are about. Really. If you want a modern road ripper, go buy one. If you want a classic Mustang, buy one (and there are a lot of safety and performance improvements you can add, but they aren’t 2002-sophisticated). But they’re two different things and if you think you can buy a Mustang and turn it into a modern car in all but the skin, you’re likely to end up very unhappy and with a much thinner wallet to boot. Also, I am looking for some really plush, nice aftermarket leather seats. Anyone know where I can purchase those? Yep. Corbeau (GTB or Sport) or Recaro make nice ones for which bolt-in adapters are available. You can get the Sports "naked" for about $225 apiece and then have a local shop cover them to suit you. (Afterthought: If you’re talking about differential-based traction control, there are a variety of original and aftermarket rear end options you can go with.) — | See http://www.nitrosyncretic.com for the Heinlein FAQ & more |